Well ya thats just the thing, i own an ipod myself. its great for walks, working out, and genreal potable music listing. But the only time i use it in a car, is when im in a differnt car other than my primary, and i hate it. He dsont plan on using it other than stricly in the car. I should have restated mypost to "why is the empeg better than an ipod for I.C.E.:)